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In just a few days, Americans head to the polls in what was supposed to be a standard, run-of-the-mill midterm election. That was until Zohran Mamdani was elected to lead the country’s largest city. The New York mayor is doing what all socialists do, which is to promise pie-in-the-sky. And at first that’s what happens. But given enough time to brew, socialism, a collective form of government, unravels.
No need to take my word for it. Take a few minutes to absorb our interview with Pedro Burelli, a former board member of Petróleos de Venezuela, S.A., who was born in Venezuela. He is recognized as a leading voice for liberty and justice across Latin America and Europe.
The Crushing Reality of Socialism
Leesa K. Donner: Pedro, in Part 1 of this series you spoke about how socialism caught fire in Venezuela, and now we're up to the point where Hugo Chávez is in power. Can you tell us a bit about the living conditions in Venezuela during the beginning of Chávez's rule in 1999?
Pedro Burelli: Well, poverty levels had increased before he entered office, so there was a high level of frustration. Hugo Chávez wins the election almost as a protest vote. In 1998, there's a huge price war between Saudi Arabia and Venezuela, so oil prices had dropped tremendously low. He comes in, and he agrees not to produce more oil, in order to not increase oil production, to help oil prices go up. As prices began to go up, things look better, and right away you went from oil prices at $10 a barrel to $100 a barrel. Suddenly, Hugo Chávez had barrels full of money and began to buy support with that.
So, free housing, free flat-screen TVs, free refrigerators. He literally bought support by largesse. He started giving out money, and people were like, "Well, this system really works. This is great. What could be wrong with this?"
What he was doing was spending an oil bonanza irresponsibly. It was not associated with production. They were not producing more barrels of oil. There was no more employment in Venezuela. It was just more money coming in because they were selling oil at an increasing price. He took this bonanza and spent it providing people [with] what [they] were asking for. People were very, very happy, and Chávez looked all-powerful. The problem is that, in the process, he was closing private sector businesses; he was taking them over. He was defining at what price they could sell something, so putting price controls on in order to stop inflation. When these guys couldn't produce, he would just take them over, and little by little he started destroying not only food production companies but farms, then manufacturing companies. Everything started collapsing. But because he had money, he could import from our neighbor Colombia or from the United States or from Brazil. Somehow you weren't feeling the shortage because you had a very rich state willing to invest its easy oil money in maintaining the perception of abundance. For a period, people didn't see anything wrong.
LKD: We tend to think of political changes – significant ones – as a slow turn, but this was like a torrent.
PB: Yeah, this was a torrent, and in the moment people said, "My God, he's solving all the problems of Venezuela, and look at this." But you knew it was unsustainable because the state was making decisions that were completely unsustainable.
It was not based on investment. It was not based on jobs. It was based on the fact that you had a very large purse that you had accumulated because you were selling oil at a very high price. What happened was that when the oil price came down, and substantially down, while expectations were very high, you could no longer deliver goods or services to the people, and people started rebelling.
This is what always happens in communism and socialism. When things do not work out – and they always stop working out because the model doesn't generate wealth, it actually destroys wealth. When that wealth is destroyed, and people start protesting, what comes next? Coercion. The state starts squashing protest and jailing the people who are protesting. You make life very difficult for anybody who's criticizing you. You start censoring the press because you want to hide the reality you've created.
The Collapse
In Part 3 of this Liberty Nation News Special Report: Socialism: A Living Hell, an economic collapse was taking over the country, and Hugo Chávez began to suppress those citizens who were protesting his regime. Chávez clamped down on free speech and the free press. Meanwhile, average Venezuelans were finding it more and more difficult to maintain their lifestyles and began sinking into poverty.
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4 Questions
The story, in brief
Who is Pedro Burelli, and why is he interviewed about Venezuela?
Pedro Burelli is a former board member of Petróleos de Venezuela, S.A., and he was born in Venezuela. He is described as a leading voice for liberty and justice across Latin America and Europe. He explains how socialism rose in Venezuela and what happened under Hugo Chávez.
How did Hugo Chávez use high oil prices in Venezuela?
Pedro Burelli says Chávez benefited from oil prices rising from about $10 a barrel to $100 a barrel. With that money, he gave away benefits like free housing, flat-screen TVs, and refrigerators. Burelli says Chávez used the oil bonanza to buy support rather than build production or jobs.
Why did Venezuela's economy start collapsing under Hugo Chávez?
Burelli says the system was unsustainable because it depended on high oil prices, not investment or employment. Chávez also imposed price controls and took over private businesses, farms, and manufacturing companies. As production was damaged and oil prices later fell, the government could no longer keep up the appearance of abundance.
What happened after Venezuelans began protesting Hugo Chávez's system?
As goods and services became harder to provide and people began rebelling, Burelli says the state responded with coercion. He says the government squashed protests, jailed protesters, and made life difficult for critics. Chávez also clamped down on free speech and the free press while more Venezuelans sank into poverty.
Leesa K. Donner
Leesa K. Donner is executive editor of LibertyNation.com and Generation Liberty. A widely published columnist, Leesa previously worked in the broadcast news industry as a television news anchor, reporter, and producer at NBC, CBS and Fox affiliates in Charlotte, Pittsburgh, and Washington, DC. She is the author of “Free At Last: A Life-Changing Journey through the Gospel of Luke.”
